Blending some clean signal from the humbuckers with the piezo to get a really wide, sweet sounding clean sound. That may be what you're thinking of, and you can achieve it with previously described methods. So I have a Vox AC15 and Fender Blues Deluxe Reissue and sometimes like running both of them at the same time. So the Ebtech gets inserted to one amp or I lift the ground on one of the boxes...both of these units are AC powered, and I know we're not supposed to lift the ground with the little adapter plug....but i have done it. This way I can use my main amps distortion on both amps as it's going through the fx loop. I will likely be getting a Line 6 Helix HX Effects pedal next week and just had a few questions I haven’t quite seen the answer to elsewhere. Often times a pedal with stereo outputs can do this job as well (and it will likely be buffered). I don't have my rig at home and the combo amps I've experimented w/ the Pod with, sound radically different, of course, as do headphones. So, you can use that pedal to plug your guitar into two different amps. Welcome to r/guitar, a community devoted to the exchange of guitar related information and entertainment. It has a piezo pickup in the bridge, as well as humbuckers, with two outputs. Plug the guitars into different channels of the mixer, then the mixer into the amp. I plug into my main tube amp and use the fx loop. POD XT LIVE, the floor unit. You can get a Morley A/B/Y for like $30 on Craigslist. To run 2 amps together simply use a splitter box. I'm looking to start a side project 2-piece band with only one guitar and drums and would like to figure out a stereo amp setup for a more rich/thick sound. I prefer the active splitters from companies like Radial over the passive splitters like Whirlwind or Morley. People get too wound up about true bypass. Either two amps, two entire pedal chains with an ABY or Stereo pedal at the front to start/split it. I used a Radial Bigshot ABY switch, but eventually I got tired of lugging extra weight around. For example, I run my rig through the Boss RV-6 and separate the signal into stereo with that pedal. That's basically the same as your Little Dual but without the switching. My cabinet is a Mesa Rectifier 4x12. If Dunlop says it does it all, okay. Either two amps, two entire pedal chains with an ABY or Stereo pedal at the front to start/split it. Works great. Much cleaner is to use your Stereo pedal and use both outputs. This is basically what the mix/level control on reverb pedals does. If one amp has an odd number of gain stages, and the other has an even number of gain stages, then running both amps at once will result in them being out of phase. However, some people do split their signal before their time-based effects and only send their delays and reverbs and whatnot to one amp or amp input. Maybe the loop is coming from the other amp. With passive splitters your pickups will see the input impedance of both amps simultaneously, which tends to load them down too much and dulls the tone. And sometimes two amps just don't sound good together... you have to experiment to find complimentary tones. Some people would use two of the same amp, but there's nothing wrong with mixing two with different characters. Is it true that, from my last pedal in my loop which has two outputs (mono/stereo) i can run one cord into one amp, and one into the other? You can pick up a 2 or 4 channel one for under $100. That is why most people that use 2 or more amps use one sound and control the sound a lot with the volume on the guitar. Lehle, Radial, and many others make good boxes for this exact purpose. What you're going to need is two amps that compliment each other and that you like the sound of. You can also run into ground loop hum. In comparison, half-stack amplifiers typically … My question is, how do I go about doing this and what are my options? The Amp Switcher has a ground lift switch for every output. Another type of setup uses three cabinets in a “wet/dry/wet” arrangement, with the center amp running your dry (unaffected) guitar signal, and the outer two speakers running a 100% affected signal panned to each side. I have seen. Take these two amps and run them in stereo, along with a stereo delay, reverb, or modulation pedal, and the sound becomes a fully enveloping, uniquely responsive musical experience. The simplest way to set up a dual-amp stereo rig is to use two amps of the same make and model, in either a combo or head-and-cab arrangement. With regard to the tube/ss thing, it really doesn't matter. If one amp has an odd number of gain stages, and the other has an even number of gain stages, then running both amps at once will result in them being out of phase. While combo guitar amps offer many benefits, their only limitation is the number of built-in speakers. Secondly, if I do not wish to run two amps, I have heard of doing something called wet/dry signal, which seemingly creates a sort of stereo effect from one amp. Apr 9, 2018 On their last episode they said two interesting things- 1) you get the positive benefits of running two amps even if you're running them at relatively low volumes, and 2) when picking a second amp to run with the one you already have, almost anything will work, don't think too hard about what to pair with what. The split would happen at the very end of your distortions, and since distortions are not typically stereo, you'll still need to split the signal somehow. I don't know. But when it works, it's a huge and complex tone. I ran a two amp set up for a while using a radial big shot aby. I've tried it a few times and there's more to it than you think. My understanding of a wet-dry signal is that it's the ratio of the wet signal to the dry signal. That's where a dedicated splitter can help, it will have options like polarity invert. Or you could have distorted guitar on one and heavily modulated cleans on the wet for ambiance. I run the humbuckers into a peavey classic 50 with some fuzz in front of it for my main gritty sound, and the piezo goes into an AC30 for my main clean. There is a great band (drums/guitar duo) from Montreal called The Castagnes; last I saw them the guitar player was using a micro POG which has outputs for both effect and dry signals. Yeah, I have a Timeline as the last pedal on my board, whenever I want to run stereo I just take out another output from it. I️t will modify timing, and tone slightly to sound more like it’s double tracked. I don't think you can truly create stereo effects with one amp unless it has two speakers and two inputs, like on the Roland Jazz Chorus. My pedal board has a stereo out, so I take the right channel and go into the second amps input. Like petejt said .... if you have the amps in phase and change channels on one or both channels they are more than likely now out of phase. Go. yeah, the band i watch is called Solids and they have a similar approach i think. Thus only works with a stereo reverb/delay though. Some amps invert phase at input so you need to correct for that or else that amp will sound weak compared to the other. How to play 2 amps (and more) With only one guitar! You could also consider running an extension cab on the other side of the drums. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. the second amp the guitarist uses looks like an ampeg bass cabinet, it just sounds so cool. Make sure that your outputs are isolated. How do I do that? Both run at the same time, or I will use one amp as clean, and the other dirty using the a/b/y to select amp, silencing the other. Since other people have pretty much answered this, I'll add something just slightly relevant. I run the amps out of phase on purpose, mids boosted 10db, ground lifted for 0 hum. community app, message board, free community tool, community chat, community forum, community platform, mobile community, group app, group communication For us, it was two 80 watt speakers, 160 watts in total if we decided to run both. I run a pedal board. Best bet when you want to split the output of the bass before it goes to two amps is to use a buffered splitter box. Did you try using the polarity switch at all? i have no problems with my Lehle Dual SGOS. What I've found that works for me is having one mid-scooped amp (Roland JC120: totally clean) and one more mid-focused amp (Laney VC30: juuust breaking up) so when on together they give a great full-range sound. Yep you need an A/B box. PN-2, DD-2/3/5, PS-2/3, DM-2/3, even my DD-20's bypass is fine. They don't exactly need to be the same loudness/wattage either. If it sounds bad, then eq you're bloody amp and move the mic. Billbill Power User. Phase switch, ground lift, boost/mid boost, stompbox configuration with leds to let you know what amps are on, etc. Thanks for visiting. It's not just used from board or guitar into two amps. Running two amp sims more or less equally through both sides can have it's own challenges. The Little Dual allows me to use each amp independently, while giving me the option to play through both amps at the same time. They also use A/B's for two guitars going into one board, or two guitars direct into just one amp. - YouTube As /u/fnaah stated, yes. For instance, if 8 gauge cable is sufficient for your amps, you may want to use 4 gauge cable for your run to the battery. I do not want to smoke my amps or blow up the cabinet. If you want to salvage the speakers of a busted combo amp, you’ll have to first take note of the speaker’s wattage. Try to use a speaker switching box backwards. The idea of stereo pedals is to create two signal paths. I've used the VooDoo Labs Amp Switcher for one-into-four for years now and no issues. How to run two amps with Line 6 Helix HX Effects? Always the same signal so no "fighting" for airspace. There are some pedals that have 2 exits that are the same. A wet/dry is simply having a chain/amp that makes the "dry", front tone (eg a spanky telecaster clean all compressed and mid-boosted) with the "wet" chain/amp giving a mellower, rounded sound so maybe a cleaner, scooped mid sound with a hint of reverb. An active A/B splitter has a buffer in it which will preserve high end in your signal going into both amps. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. The best place to start if you're new is right below in our "Rules" section. FAQ Search Join Private Messages Profile Log in. Thread starter Tremonti; Start date Apr 4, 2018; Prev. Use a mixer. Ok so this is probably a pretty simple answer, but I'm unsure of how to go about doing this. what do i need to run two amps. Due to the fact that your power cable needs to handle the current draw from all of your amps at once, it needs to be significantly larger in gauge than called for by the specs of your individual amps. This is what El Ten Eleven do. The one amp I currently run is a Blackstar HT Stage 60 tube amp. An a/b box or literally and stereo output pedal. If it sounds good, then it's good. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. While similar sounding amps run essentially through both sides is fun for building a wall of sound, I think it's often more interesting to define each amp/cab's voice a bit more clearly if you're using less stereo spread. This is a forum where guitarists, from novice to experienced, can explore the world of guitar through a variety of media and discussion. That brings me to the secondary question - If two at once is NOT possible, in the alternative, is it possible to have two guitars plugged in but only using one at once (I would imagine if you can do this, you could also do them at the same time, but … 3 Reply by helrazr84 2011-07-03 17:14:41 (edited by helrazr84 2011-07-03 17:25:52) It's pretty complicated, but the terminology A/B usually means one or the other, not both. On the Lehle make sure you're using the A/B input. The signals partially cancel each other out- causing that dull, rounded off sound. Is it true that, from my last pedal in my loop which has two outputs (mono/stereo) i can run one cord into one amp, and one into the other? the ground thing can rear it's ugly head too... there are ground lifts on both of these, but sometimes they just decrease it, rather than eliminate. One good solution, if applicable, is to use the effects loop as an extra point-of-entry. The Steel Guitar Forum. How do I do that? The Mimiq pedal might be a good option to split the signal. Anyway, don't want to deter you trying it, just know that if it sounds bad there are several factors you'll want to investigate before you give up. Thank you for your time, replies and input everyone. Connecting two guitar amps together is a technique that many veteran guitar players use to expand their sound. So you'd have a mono signal but it would be coming out of your amp on one side of the stage and the cab on the other side. Love it...works exactly how it's intended. He ran the effect output to a bass amp on the other side of the stage while the dry output ran to a orange combo. After some research, and forum sleuthing, I came upon this discussion. The basic rule is, your amp head’s power output, usually indicated by watts, shouldn’t exceed the wattage rating of your speakers. the other thing i wonder, would quality of cables make a difference in this circumstance? Sometimes the loop seems to show up from nowhere even when running the same gear, the same way. I need to spend more time with it, I'm sure it's a good product. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The signals partially cancel each other out- causing that dull, rounded off sound. You can get a lot of different sounds with only a couple of pedals in this way. They use a pedal like that (I think it is a delay one) and they plug the bass/guitar to a bass amp and a guitar amp. Run speaker wire from two amplifiers to one set of speakers at the same time without using the correct amplifier switching box – even if you are only using one amp at a time. Plug one guitar normally into the amp, and the other into any digital amp simulator. I also use a VHT Valvulator which is a buffered tube splitter with 1 in 2 outs. You might prefer to run your 60w Blackstar at a middling volume and have it fairly clean, then say a smaller 15/20w amp cranked higher and breaking up. If you have guitar related questions, use the "Search" field or ask the community. I use the Lehle P-split to split the signal and still keep it strong. Do I plug my speaker cable into the 4 ohms out of the amp and then the 4 ohms into the cabinet, or should I still use the 8 ohm outputs from each head. Change the polarity of the speaker cable/s for one of your amps. Else you could have the same start, run two pedal chains, then ABY them back together before going into a single amp. Two amps is fun times. Or I can overdrive the piezo until it sounds like a broken mess, and mix it with the fuzzed up humbucker signal for some really cool dirt sounds. JavaScript is disabled. They sounded huge for a just a two person band. I picked up an Italia Mondial guitar a while back. Radial JX-2 Tonebone. Running a Marshall MG and a Diezel VH4....sounds like heaven. Also the a/b/y I … A good A/B/Y box. A/B box would work but would also add noise/grounding issues (I've had this issue). It has a single 8 ohm input and two 4 ohm inputs for stereo (so it says on the back). Im going to be in a cover band and have been researching what gear the bands used. should i get a second tube amp, or solid state? For both of these options, or either, do i need to buy an a/b box to run in my loop? First thing is first, both amps are plugged into the same power strip ( whether it be a $5 power strip or a $700 Furman) and are right next to each other? Buy a Y-cable with ¼-inch male end and two ¼-inch female ends. My preamp has four sets of output's.So in theory it would be possible to run Eight mono blocks or four stereo power amps.My question is if I wanted to audition two different power amps it would seem I could connect both power amps to the preamp then run speaker cable from each power amp to the speakers without connecting them to the speaker terminals.Then plug in the first power amps … As a guy who's been "there and back" with the boutique pedal craze - just trust your ears. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Plug both amps in the splitter box and switch between them, or use both together. If you plan to run both amps at once you will need A/B/Y box. Some manufacturers might use the term differently. The most obvious application for using a box to route your signal into two different amps is when you want to use one amp for your clean sound and the other for overdriven tones. possibly try using the ebtech on the amp that it is not currently used on. If my amp is rated at 200 watts, and I was powering a 100-watt speaker, then the speakers would probably blow afte… I have heard of doing something called wet/dry signal, which seemingly creates a sort of stereo effect from one amp. Attempt any sort of special wiring to run amplifiers bridged, in … I'm looking forward to trying some of these suggestions out! One input, two outputs or two inputs, one output! Set the cab to 8 ohms stereo and run each head at 8 ohms into the two inputs, it's like having two separate 2x12 vertical cabs. https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/tips-and-tricks/obey-your-master-the-art-of-amp-slaving. Of course this blows out the $10 budget completely. I use an a/b/y into 2 amps, then to a 4x12 (as 2 2x12's). To make it so you can run any two amps together or separately without hum, ground problems, etc, you need isolation transformers and polarity switches and a phase switch --- Lehle and Framptone and Radial and a few other makers make good amp switching pedals, they're expensive because there's a lot of expensive components. Splitting to two different amps can get complicated though. I have not done it, but the guys on that pedal show do and talk about it a lot. I really appreciate it! Else you could have the same start, run two pedal chains, then ABY them back together before going into a single amp. With few exceptions, combo amps come with one speaker for lower-powered models, and two for higher-powered models. Try, I have a cool old box called the Pedal Pusher which runs 1 guitar in to 8 outs with an active load control as well a a mini gain knob too. You must log in or register to reply here. Only if you plan to do a wet-dry split. 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